German WWII 42-Code P-08 Luger Description: Up for sale today is a German WWII 42-Code P-08 Luger serial no. 6708 chambered in caliber 9mm Parabellum. This excellent original Luger was produced in 1940 by Mauser Oberndorf.
This is a (19)42 Chamber dated Mauser Code 42 built for the German Schutzstaffel SS after thecontract for the P-38 was in production. The SS had their ownprocurement system.
This Parabellum is9mmwith a 4' (100mm) barrel that is proofed and serial numbered to the gun. This example hasall matching numbers, comes with a complete rig of dated holster, extra matching magazine and loading tool. (1771)NOTE: Photographs taken todaywith the high mega-pixel camera show more than we sometimes can see withthe human eye. Magnified close-ups show us tool marks and naturalsurface conditions that one normally doesn't see in the ordinaryhandling of the weapon. Photographs arecopyrighted, all rights reserved, any extraction, reproduction ordisplay of gun pictures without the express consent of the PhoenixInvestment Arms is strictly prohibited.
Thank you for your cooperation.Please visit Legal (tabbed) for Conditions of Sale. Theserial number appears on the front of the frame, on the side of thelocking bolt, on the trigger, on the bottom of the barrel, the sideplate, the left side of the receiver, the safety bar, the sear bar,the rear connecting pin, and on the extractor. This type of serial number placement was used on military contract guns as opposed to the concealed number of the commercial models.Recruiting posters took on an almost 'pop art' design with some of the originals today worth $1000's of dollars. Pasted on walls in lieu of internet presentations they were the communicator of their time. Much like our current political class that believes yard signs, posters, and money can sway public opinion the Nazi's used wall posters. Note the 'i' suffix or 'block' under the serial number.
The 'i' block was reached in 1940 when the Code 42 was being manufactured. 1940 production began by mixing production of the 'y' & 'z' blocks before the no suffix was introduced early in the year. So by serial number 95,000 Parabellums were manufactured before the 1940 'i'. By the beginning of 1941 Code 42 production was in the 'n' block and by approximately 15,700 guns were made the transition to the byf Code was initiated. Therefore the 19'41'-42 Code was less than 16,000 made. The front of the holster is softand does not exhibit any splits or tears. The rear of theholster appears to have strong belt loops and the toe of the holster is strong.The fxo on the magazine tells us that it was manufactured by C.
Haenel Waffen-U- Fahrradfrabrik in the city of Suhl. The Eagle 37 is the German military acceptance stamp used at the Haenel Factory commonly called the Waffenamt. These magazines were salt blued/black with extruded steel, black plastic bottoms and a new zigzag spring with the P.08 markings.
The loading tool is blank. Very hard to bring all these matching items together in an original proofed rig. To conceal production aseries of codes to conceal production from the Allies. Codes assigned to Mauser were S/42, 42, and byf.
The Mauser Logo in the traditional barrel or Banner design was used for commercial guns so to licensed individuals. Towards the end of Parabellum production commercial Luger's were sold to the military and mostly SS and special government offices.
This Luger has a almost deep blue,commercial color to it. It is in very clean condition and anexceptionally fine piece.ABOVE: On the left we can see the four digit serial number is marked under the barrel and on the side of the receiver with the last two digits on the locking lever and side plate. Above Right with the side plate removed we can see the last two digits of the serial number on the trigger.Proof marks are well struck and clearlyvisible.
This is an excellent example of the Black Widow Parabellum which is a known favorite of all collectors and to be within the 42-42 class of Black Widows' makes this an extraordinary find. The most distinctive feature ofthese pistols is undoubtedly the toggle-lock mechanism, which holdsthe breech closed by locking in a manner not unlike the human knee,which can sustain a heavy weight when straight, but once bent isquite easy to continue to bend. The toggle joint in its straightposition resists the rearward force of the detonating cartridge,then 'buckles' after enough time has passed.
When a round is firedthe entire breech, barrel and toggle move straight rearward (onrails) until the toggle begins to ride up on a pair of cams that'breaks' the toggle (makes it bend at the joint). Once the togglejoint is no longer straight, it bends freely, allowing the bolt tocome rearward, and the striker to be cocked.
The spent cartridge isextracted by a combination extractor/loaded chamber indicator on thetop of the toggle; it is ejected as the toggle nears the end of itsrearward free travel compressing the spring in the grip andreturning the breach to battery. A new round is stripped from themagazine and chambered as the toggle is driven back to the straightposition by the spring. The right side of the Parabellum has the twoEagle 135 proofs of the Stage I & II proofings' and theEagle/Swastika of the Waffenamt proof for the post 1939 Swastika Eagle. Many people refer to the late Waffenamt (Eagle w.Swastika) as the Nazi Lugers but this was not any attempt to promote Nazism but rather the Eagle (Alder) adopted as the WWII Nazi Government used the straight wing eagle and you can watch the evolution of proofs as the went from the dropped wing alder of the Weimar period into the straight wing of the Nazi years. It is entirely subjective togive any firearm a rating of excellent or fine, just as it is to declare itxx% blued or strawed.
Few collectible weapons are out of the box new and these arepremium priced. Bluing percentages is like Beauty, in the eye of thebeholder. We strive to provide picturesso you can judge for yourself if the gun meets your criteria. Any questions or request for additional purchases email to This firearm is eligible for transfer to C&R permit holder, even in California. We are registered with CA DOJ for firearms shipment. LAYAWAYS: Sometimes our'significant other' doesn't understand the beauty, craftsmanship andinvestment potential of one of these investor grade weapons.
Inthese circumstances where discretion becomes the better part of valor wewill accept layaways of up to one year with at least 20% down and someactivity occurring monthly to insure that after one year the sale iscompleted. Cancellations of layaways forfeit 33% if done within twomonths, otherwise 100%. You can transfer a layaway to a consignment sale atany time. See 'Legal' for exact terms.3 Day ReturnPolicyWehonor a three day return policy. We will answer any questions, send you anypictures, as detailed as you want, to insure that what we are showing you iswhat you want to see, before you buy it.FIRING ANY WEAPON NEGATES ANYCHANCE OF RETURN!WARNING: We do not represent these guns as safe tofire.
They are not test fired before sale; they are sold ascollectibles only. Prior to firing you should have it inspected by aqualified individual and abide by all safety requirements.Genuine Lugers Sales - LugerHistory - Luger Accessories - Luger Holsters - Parabellum© Copyright 2001-2016 Phoenix Investment Arms Inc.
LSB#: 180831RM02Make: MauserModel: Luger 42 Two Digit DateSerial Number: 367oYear of Manufacture: January 1941 (Per Pg. 66 of “Third Reich Lugers” by Jan C. Stills, about 7000 of these Lugers were produced with a two-digit date at the beginning of 1941, but in February, the “42” code was changed to “byf”)Caliber: 9mm LugerAction Type: Toggle Type Single Action Semi-Auto, Removable Magazine.Markings: The left side plate, the left side of the trigger, locking bolt, sear bar safety, sear bar, the extractor, front toggle, and the back of the rear toggle are marked “67”. The left side of the pin holding the rear toggle to the frame and the top surface of the hold open latch are also marked “67”. The top of the front toggle is also marked “42”, the code for Mauser used from 1939 until Feb. The left side of the breechblock is marked with a winged eagle holding a globe with Swastika. The left side of the frame under the safety is marked “GESICHERT” and on the flat in front of the safety with “P.08”.
The left side of the receiver at the chamber is marked “367” and the top of the chamber is marked “41”. The right side of the receiver is marked with two “Eagle / 655” Waffenamts and an Eagle holding a globe with Swastika (these match the markings show on line 31 of “Luger Variations” by J.
Jones for a 42 Luger), with a 2 nd Eagle on the right rear of the barrel. The front face of the frame is marked “367 / o” and the underside of the barrel at the frame is marked “367 / 8 83”. The underside of the barrel is also marked with the import mark “INTERARMS ALEX. VA / GERMANY 9mm P08”.
The inside surfaces of the grip panels are marked with a “Eagle / 655” Waffenamt.Barrel Length: 4”Sights / Optics: This pistol is mounted with a “V” notch in the back of the toggle and a blade front sight dovetailed into a base on the barrel. The rear ramped face of the front sight blade is serrated.Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are checkered walnut that are dark with oil staining. The checkering shows moderate wear with two deep bruises in the right grip. The grips are tight on the frame.
The grips rate in about Very Good overall condition.Type of Finish: The pistol is blued. The ejector has a straw-colored finish.Finish Originality: The finish on the frame and receiver are not original, although the barrel finish may be original. There is light pitting under the finish on the frame rails, the tool marks in the rear frame ears have been slightly polished, and there is only an extremely light drag line under the safety, which doesn’t match the wear marks on the grips. There are also sanding marks under the finish on the receiver and frame.Bore Condition: The bore is bright, tending to gray at the muzzle. The rifling is sharp. There is extremely light erosion in the bore near the muzzle.Overall Condition: This pistol retains about 96% of its current metal finish. There is light pitting under the finish on the frame rails and the left side of the frame at the top edge of the grip, sanding marks under the finish of the frame and receiver, and several spots of erosion in the front strap.
There is thinning at the muzzle and at the bottom of the front strap, the top rear edges of the frame, the edges of the sideplate and on the edges of the stock lug. There are few light handling marks in the barrel and a few marks through the finish in the front strap, with a few small marks in the sides of the frame. The toggle serrations and knurling are sharp, the magazine release knurling shows light wear and the takedown lever knurling is sharp. The grip screws are sharp. The markings are clear and those on the barrel, including the firing proof, are sharp. Overall, this pistol rates in about Fine condition as re-finished.Mechanics: The action functions correctly and the receiver is tight to the frame.
We did not fire this pistol. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards.Box, Paperwork & Accessories: This pistol comes with two magazines, a tool, paperwork and a box. The body of the magazine in the pistol looks like it was originally blued and then polished bright, with an aluminum bottom piece. The lower spine is marked “S” and with a “Eagle / 6” Waffenamt indicating that it was made by Simson.
(Simson was renamed Gustloff-Werke in 1939 after the Simson family was forced to leave Germany in 1936, so we would have thought the “Eagle / 4” mark for Gustloff-Werke would have been used for a magazine made in 1940 or 41). The bottom piece is marked with “1 / 367” and with an “Eagle / L” German police acceptance stamp as used on firearms from 1940-42. So, serial numbered to the pistol and accepted by the police, but with no police markings on the pistol? The magazine is in about Very Good to Fine overall condition.
The spare magazine is blued with an aluminum bottom piece marked “367” and with an upside down “1”. It shows minimal wear and is in Excellent condition. The tool is blued and marked with an “Eagle / 655” Waffenamt. The tool appears unused. The paperwork consists of descriptions and information on other 41/42 Lugers, an Interarms Safety Warnings brochure and a double-sided instruction sheet from Interarms on the pistol.
The box is cardboard with “41-42” and “367” written on the lid in pencil. The lid is held together with blue tape and the bottom of the box is torn at two corners. The box is in Fair condition.Our Assessment: The Luger (Pistole Parabellum or P-08) is perhaps the most aesthetically and ergonomically pleasing of all autoloading centerfire pistols. It is also one of the strongest, most accurate and most recognizable service pistols ever made.
During the Third Reich era, the Germans used codes to represent the different manufacturers to conceal their identity. In 1940, the code “42” was used for Mauser, and a 4-digit date code was used on the receiver’s ring. At the beginning of 1941, the date code was changed to two digits, and in February of 1941 the Mauser code was changed to “byf”. Jan Still’s book on Lugers indicates that about 7000 Luger pistols were made in January 1941 with the two-digit date code and “42” code for Mauser, and this is one of them. The “o” suffix in the serial number falls into the correct range for that month. The pistol has Army acceptance marks correct for a pistol of that period, with matching serial number on all the parts we could find.
However, it also has import marks. The pistol comes with two magazines with matching serial numbers, but we have questions about their authenticity and they are both marked “1” which is obviously incorrect. The pistol also includes an apparently unused Luger tool with Waffenamt markings.
The receiver and frame of the pistol have been refinished and the pistol is in about Fine condition as refinished with about 96t% of its current finish remaining. The bore is mostly bright with sharp rifling and extremely light erosion at the muzzle. With its rare markings and matching numbers, this pistol should still attract attention from the collectors out there. There weren’t that many made, and most were probably lost at the Russian front. Please see out pictures for fine details and good luck in your bidding.CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This C&R pistol CAN be transferred in California and CAN be sold to a California resident as a private party transaction (PPT) at our shop in Simi Valley. All cartridge firing handguns (even C&R's and antiques) sold to a California resident must be DROS'd. This does not apply to out of state buyers.LSB#: 180831RM02 Make: Mauser Model: Luger 42 Two Digit Date Serial Number: 367o Year of Manufacture: January 1941 (Per Pg.
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